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Allusionist 214. Four Letter Words: Bane Bain Bath

August 13, 2025 The Allusionist


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For today’s instalment of Four Letter Word season, we’re hopping from ‘bane’ to ‘bain’ to ‘bath’, via poison gardens, doll’s eyes, alchemists, placentas and waterborne curses.

House band/husband Martin Austwick makes his annual-ish appearance on the show, and previews his catchy new song ‘Poison Garden’. Together we also recently made a musical piece about typefaces and torrid emotions, Souvenirs, and here is how to listen to it.

EXTRA INFO:

  • The curse tablets part of the episode originally appeared on episode 68 of the show, Curse Soup, so there’s a bunch more information there about throwing curses into water, plus photos of the baths at Bath.

  • “In addition to hunting wolves, it was believed that wolfsbane kept werewolves away” - yeah, I find every plant keeps werewolves away, actually.

  • The phrase ‘seeing a man about a dog’ “is thought to have originated in the United Kingdom. Its first known appearance was in an 1865 issue of The Anti-Teapot Review, a British periodical, in which a man employs it in order to avoid an awkward conversation with his wife.”

  • “In the Southern US, going to see a man about a dog signifies that one is going to urinate, while going to see a man about a horse signifies that one is going to defecate, and thus may be away a bit longer.”

  • Cato’s dessert recipes.

  • Experimenting with cooking placenta (Cato’s cheese and honey cake, not the bodily organ).

  • “Even though ancient Romans did not have the terminology to describe the chemical reactions that made the alica placenta so much better than the non-alica version, they clearly could taste the difference.”

  • About Mary, the alchemist.

  • The Fihrist of Ibn al-Nadīm and the Transmission of Knowledge in the Islamic World.

  • Carl Linnaeus “is credited for naming Marigolds ‘Tagetes’. He named the flower in honor of Tages, the grandson of Jupiter in Roman mythology. Tages was a god of the underworld who specialized in haruspicy which is the useful art of foretelling the future by examining entrails.”

  • The Allusionist episode about ladybirds/ladybugs, a creature named for Mary, mother of Jesus.

  • Check out doll’s eyes, the white baneberry. Of course, all eyes of dolls are creepy and dangerous.

  • Check out Inwhiches, lovingly curated by Ashra!

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YOUR RANDOMLY SELECTED WORD FROM THE DICTIONARY:
manticore
, noun: a mythical beast
typically depicted as having the body of a lion,
the face of a man, and the sting of a scorpion.
Origin Middle English, from Old French, via Latin from Greek mantikhoras, corrupt reading in Aristotle for martikhoras, from an Old Persian word meaning 'maneater'

The dictionary entry for manticore

CREDITS:

  • Martin Austwick is a singer, musician and podcast maker. Download his songs at palebirdmusic.com and Bandcamp, and listen to his podcasts Song By Song and Neutrino Watch - and the podcast we have both been in since 2007, Answer Me This.

  • This episode was produced by me, Helen Zaltzman, on the unceded ancestral and traditional territory of the xʷməθkʷəy̓əm (Musqueam), Sḵwx̱wú7mesh (Squamish), and səlilwətaɬ (Tsleil-Waututh) Nations.

  • Find the Allusionist at youtube.com/allusionistshow, instagram.com/allusionistshow, facebook.com/allusionistshow, @allusionistshow.bsky.social… Essentially: if I’m there, I’m there as @allusionistshow. 

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